Note: In addition to taking Magical Lineage for fireball, if one can also take Wayang Spellhunter for fireball too that'll work even better. Traits: all traits on pages 8-21 except Chosen Child and Rebel Leader. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and gain a +1 size bonus to AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. Wayang spell hunter + Magical Lineage for a Wizard. You want both Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter. I believe it's been said somewhere that Magical Lineage and Wayang doesn't stack. It'll be a little rougher between levels, oh, five and seven, as you have a lot more pull on your level two slots. Power Attack: Usually blue in a Melee based class. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and gain a +1 size bonus to AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. to 5:00 p. Region. *Bloodrage: Undead* / *Fast Movement* / Noble Scion: of War 2O. In addition, what sort of feats would help keep a Puppetmaster's plans from unraveling? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments. service@paizo. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . ”. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. In regards to the traits, you can indeed only have one trait per category by default (though it's worth noting that while magical lineage is indeed a magic trait, metamagic master (which is correctly named wayang spellhunter) is a regional trait and is thus fine to take at the same time and does indeed stack if taken on the same spell), though there are a set of. ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2)Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. Better effect and you can apply your 0 cost metamagics as well. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? Another option would be to consider going for the draconic bloodline rather than elemental (lower spell selection ,though you could go for wayang spellhunter+elemental spell to get cold fireballs again, and the cold spells you'd have would hit harder) which gets you some natural armor to help defenses and more importantly opens up the dragon. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. Traits/Drawback: Fate's Favored, Magical Knack, Wayang Spellhunter: Ill Omen / Power-Hungry. Rikkan : Dec 7, 2013, 11:39 am: Titania, the Summer Queen wrote: Rikkan wrote: You're free to houserule them to work, I was just stating that by the rules they don't work. Scimitar . exe, select the game, and then drag mod zip-files into the mod manager where it will automatically unpack and install them. P. The treants only took minor damage before GTFOing, the siege trees made like the Chosen Undead and became kindling. Does Magical Lineage stack with Wayang Spellhunter / Metamagic Master? Rules Questions: Search Thread Search this Thread: reyyvin : Jun 9, 2014, 11:09 am: First off, this is primarily for PFS; I'm posting in both the rules forum as well as the PFS forum, so as to hopefully get more Dev input. With spell specialization, varisian tattoo, empower spell, magical lineage, and wayang spellhunter That's 1. Wayang Spellhunter a nice lvl 1 spell, like Ear Piercing Scream or whatever, and you can Toxic it still at level 1, and Quicken Toxic it as a level 5. Without the combat casting feat or gloves of elvenkind he passes on a 1. That's Awesome. Mostly, these stories are just fictions of fearful minds, but it's true that wayangs were originally creatures of shadow, straddling the edge between light and darkness. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. 5th widen spell. I'm wondering if it's RAW legal, and whether any of you, as GMs or players, would…What if I have Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter to negate the spell level increase for Persistent Spell? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A. Illusionist Spells Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +4) 1st — hypnotism (DC 14), silent image (DC 14), vanish. Empowered Burning Arc is also effective. You're not going to be doing much damage. My character went human so he could have both Irrisen Icemage and Extra Traits (Spellhunter and Gifted Adept. Neither of them is listed as a "trait bonus", so they would work together. If anyone has some suggestions feel free. Sign In; Cart . Select a spell of 3rd level or lower. Then use Still Spell + Wayang Spellhunter on your favorite offensive spell. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Quote: You can alter any spell that targets a single creature to become an authoritative spell. Benefit: Whenever you are in an area of dim light or darkness, you can move at full speed using Stealth without taking the normal –5 penalty for doing so. The fluff of actually being born there is well fluff. Animal Growth is pretty good if you have an animal companion and the room to maneuver. It's irrelevant for spontaneous casters, but could be relevant for pepared casters thay might have a spell prepared with metamagic but not without. Whichever of those you go for, put one trait on magical lineage or wayang spellhunter on the spell you're focusing on. Many argue that casting wish three times a day is not "an appropriate special ability for a creature of that HD" for a simulacrum. 5x(7d4+14), which averages to 49. This is a huge topic. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. pathunwinder •. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Wayang CR 1/2 Source Bestiary 4 pg. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Metamagic Master: Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter (Shadow Enchantment), Magical Lineage (Shadow Conjuration). It still requires 5th level spell slots which are available at 10th level. Second: They are separate classes, so those two don't interact. I took furious as it adds damage Level 7 bonus feat - Quicken Spell - This is for later onIdeal Traits: Wayang Spellhunter- (Perfection spell) Lore Seeker (RotRL trait): Pick 3 spells and increase CL and DC for those 3 spells by +1. I realised that the feats Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both lower the level increase of metamagic by 1, and my DM allows them to stack on the same spell. Take a +1 metamagic say toppling smack it on magic missile and apply magical lineage and then wayang spellhunter. People will say that you can use both, but there is language about how traits don't stack, so this is questionable at best. Crypto+4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter comes to mind as a pretty thematic and dangerous option, doable by level 7 if you use Wayang Spellhunter to drop it to a level 3 spell. at first level you grab spell focus: evocstion and spell specialization: burning hands. Cast a Dazing Fireball in a 5th level slot. Close Range also works with things like Ray of Enfeeblement. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. If they make the save they are still taking 67 damage. But I have been wondering for some time and just now remembered. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . In a similar vein the MAGICAL LINEAGE or WAYANG SPELLHUNTER background traits are incredibly strong for a Magus, who can use one of these traits to get a level 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp or a level 1 Rime Frostbite (or occasionally a level 1 Toppling Magic Missile). You can take both! And even apply them to the same spell! Focused Mind: +2 concentration. This is actually an underrated Trait. Wayang Spellhunter reduces metamagic cost. RSS FeedSimply install UnityModManager. Very clear. While it doesn't actually ask about the Wayang Spellhunter trait, I can't imagine any honest assumption that it would not work the same. 1st level - tattooed sorcerer for some cool perks and rime spell. No need to be fancy, just an overview. It depends on what your priority is. What's particularly fun would be applying both of them to Fireball, using Admixture to change energy types on the fly, and attaching Dazing Spell. Religion. Bear in mind that the Magus probably wants to use his swift actions on something else than reducing spell failure chance. There are several ways to do this. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. Raven777. They technically do different things, so there's. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?In addition, he could Heighten for free and using Wayang and Spellhunter, add Rhime and Intensfy Spell for free as well, while casting out of a 3rd level slot. Wayangs have access to the following feat. Combined with other DC/CL tricks like the Arcanist's Potent. Nov 5, 2012, 02:04 am. 3 UC Rogue-> Dex to Damage Kukri, Outflank. Command, suggestion, and Greater command come to mind as great spells to increase DC and CL on. A Magus with a 2 lvl dip into Titan Mauler Barbarian is able to 1h a greatsword, with a -2. Well, as I'm an Eldritch Scion it's a little harder (known spells as a Bard). Benefit: When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies If you took Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage, you can use Toxic Spell on your cantrips/orisons; if you took both, you can apply Focused Spell to the cantrip/orison too. Then you need Empower and Maximize. 20d6 compared to 8d6. paizo. A human could take the Draconic Heritage alternate racial trait instead of skilled to get 10ft of darkvision (enough since this spell only has a 10ft radius), spend both feats to pick up Umbral spell and it's prerequisite Tenebrous spell at level 1, and grab wayang spellhunter and magical lineage to reduce the level increase to 0. Depending how OP you want to be you could take Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter in Burning Arc or Fireball. Tons of benefits for both positive and negative channeling, and of course many variant channels are powerful in their own right. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. WarrenCraftlocke. Eyes and Ears of the City. Grab blood havoc in place of your level 7 bloodline feat, quicken spell for the 13th level one, and widen spell for the 19th level one. If you want a persistent dazing spell effect. 5x(15d8) (average 153. I know that there is also Spell Perfection, which would definitely help, though that is not a low-level feat. And like I've been saying, the abilities you use to discount the spell are irrelevant. Oddly, the Remove Fear spell isn't a good option for a Psychic, since it's got an Emotion component. Magical Lineage: Fireball, Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball. 2 UC Rogue-> Combat Talent Butterfly Sting, Evasion. Per RAW of regional traits you only need to spend 1 year in the listed region to take a regional trait. Check with your GM if. Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. If they make the save they are still taking 67 damage. 5 + 10, average 156. I can think of no way that allows you to cast 1st level spells as cantrips. 75), since maximize doesn't maximize the boost from empower spell. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. Not as good at single target damage, but. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter both apply to a single spell. Brian Abend Puntos 61. You need another spell. " and. Level 6 – Wizard Bonus Feat – Empower Spell. Looking for any critiques, gear recommendations, etc…I'll pick languages either based on character background ("I have Wayang Spellhunter? I better learn Wayang or Minatan, and Tien"), or on usefulness ("I summon monsters? Better learn Terran, Earth Glide is better if. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . If you go with Blood Conduit I'd pick up Ascetic Style to swift-action cast spells through a manufactured weapon when you simply want to deal damage instead of relying on combat maneuvers. Wayang Spellhunter says:"When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. 4 UC Rogue-> Combat Talent: Combat Reflexes. you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. 10d6 by 16th level. The only thing I've come up with is kinda lame and that's taking the usual 2 traits to lower metamagic costs by 1 each: wayang spellhunter and magical lineage to use on the Aid spell. They have sharp features and skin tones ranging from. The FAQ system requires some extrapolation. En el momento de salir de la cul-de-sac, de tu banda/estrella de nivel de amenaza que se Morningstar se generan. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . You know, I never noticed the level limit on Wayang Spellhunter before! Gray Warden wrote:Stack as much primary casting stat as possible (spells/day). If you took Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage, you can use Toxic Spell on your cantrips/orisons; if you took both, you can apply Focused Spell to the cantrip/orison too. There was an artillery line of siege trees and treants hurling boulders at the walls. What you can’t do is the Wayang Spellhunter Empowered Shocking Grasp (as an example). If you want something close pickup a staff that has your desired 1st level spell in it and you will be able to cast. It's not the best, but I've enjoyed it: Magical Lineage on Major Image, and Wayang Spellhunter on Audiovisual Hallucination. Caster: Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter, Draconic Infusion Companion: Rancher, Thoroughbred, Natural Born Leader Anyway, just looking for good suggestions so I can compile the list, considering there's like 5 million traits. Call Lightning has an annoying 1 round cast time. On the other stuff: Elf obviously works very well, or anything else with Dexterity and Intelligence. They are extremely gaunt, with pixielike stature and skin the color of deep shadow. Of course, there's always the classic Wayang Spellhunter + Magical Lineage for the Arcane Mark cantrip. Level 1: Get Oracle with Heavens Mistery: Awesome Display revelation, and deaf Curse. . The caster level for these. Wayang Spellhunter (d20pfsrd calls it Metamagic Master): As Magical Lineage, but spell must be 3rd level or lower. If you used Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, your Maximized Shocking Grasps would take up a 2nd level spell slot. So a true regional trait. If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and getting a headband of charisma. Also it doesn't target reflex, it's a touch attack; similar creatures. The best it can do is reduce a spell back to the original spell level. IMHO, Wayang Spellhunter simply should not be available, since it states: Wayang Spellhunter wrote: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage you can fill up your 1st level slots with Merciful Empowered Rimed Rays of Frost and cast Merciful Empowered Ray of Frost as a cantrip. This has always been the case, which is why the suggestion for a spellslinger is usually Wizard 1/ Sorcerer X, because your wizard progression is so heavily nerfed by the archetype, and it doesn't affect your sorcerer spells at all. And who knows, maybe if you add additional material components like Alchemist's Fire, you might even create a permanently heal-burning party?Also, consider not taking Wayang Spellhunter right off the bat, and get Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage later with Additional Traits as a feat. You still get the arcane bond from the bloodline. Alternately, if you want to keep those, specialize in Shocking Grasp instead of Frostbite. Wayang spellhunter and magical lineage both say you treat the spell's level as 1 level lower than its actual level for determining the adjusted level. Dark Half may protect you from fear effects, but you only get 11 rounds per day, even with your high Charisma. I recommend trying out Lineage and Wayang on Fireball and pick up. My character went human so he could have both Irrisen Icemage and Extra Traits (Spellhunter and Gifted Adept. Wayang Spellhunter) count as numerical bonuses "doubled" by the Spell Perfection feat. What I want to do is use Benthic spell (and Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter) to maximize my ability to force Fortitiude saves or be prone with EVERY elemental spell I cast, while combining it with other unpleasant effects. Wayang spellhunter is a must, functionally identical to Magical Lineage, free metamagic on Shocking Grasp, Snowball or Frostbite (as appropriate to your build) is far too good to pass up. Note, unlike Combat Casting, this applies to ALL concentration checks. You can take the Magical Lineage & Metamagic Master (Wayang Spellhunter) traits to add more metamagic. Lvl 10 Magus + Lowball 18 Int + Improved Spell Combat (2). Business, Economics, and Finance. 135 damage and they have to make 2 reflex saves or be dazed for 3 rounds. pathunwinder • 4 yr. Toppling Magic Missile, Rime Snowball or Persistent Color Spray or Blindness/Deafness (or Hideous Laughter for a Bard) would be fun. I know that there is also Spell Perfection, which would definitely help, though that is not a low-level feat. You use a 1st level pearl of power. Circle of Death is a 6th level wizard spell, so its base DC is 16 (10 + spell level). The point is that a magus does not have to be a one trick pony. Plus, if you take Magical Lineage & Wayang Spellhunter you can cast it as a cantrip for infinite uses of your permanent darkness. Also, for your wizard class you probably want evoker (admixture) so that you can swap your fire spells into other elemental damage for all the monsters that have fire resistance. Unlike the related and formerly superior. The wayangs are a race of small supernatural humanoids who trace their ancestry to the Plane of Shadows. You can take both traits but that's usuallly overkill, and it's good to have one trait to personalise your character with. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +4) 6/day — blinding ray. com - Forums: Rules Questions: Is there a ruling on Magical. Wayang Spellhunter reduces the level increase from metamagic of a single spell by one. That was the first. If you want to go Channel focused, you can play a Neutral cleric and go into Envoy of Balance. It is limited in uses per day, but 5 of those is enough to solve most days problems. Wayang Spellhunter does require you to have grown up in a specific region though, which probably means it's out of your reach. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Choosing to be a human rather than an elf satisfies one but not on its own the other - if you have the wayang spellhunter trait you aren't Keleshite, you're from Minata instead. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. The d20pfsrd had it listed as Metamagic Master because they were asked to remove anything specific to the Golarion setting from the site, so they renamed Wayang Spellhunter to Metamagic Master. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. At 5th level, a metamagic rager can sacrifice additional rounds of bloodrage to apply a metamagic. Transmuter- +1 CL on all transmutations and extends one. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . With wayang spellhunter and magical lineage you can cast an intensified, reach, empowered, maximized mythic force punch as an 8th level spell, 5th with spell perfection. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? < > Showing 1-3 of 3 comments . Is this possible of is there something I'm missing. Or you could have him wear Glamered armor that actually isn't heavy, but looks like heavy. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. Then take something like Spell Focus: Evocation and maybe Toughness. Your plan to use Frostbite is simply replacing shocking grasp as your one trick. ) Religion: Affinity For The Elements: Fire (Spells cast with the Fire descriptor are cast at +1 DC)Wayang spellhunter or magiced lineage traits for -1 effective spell level on metamagic. Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. With Crossblooded, even my strong save is a weak save. 25 damage per d6. Can one take both Magical Lineage *and* Wayang Spellhunter on different spells? What about on the same spell? I know it wont matter for this character since both Ice Storm and Ball Lightning are 4th level spells and Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of level 3 or below. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. We're a crossblooded orc/draconic (black, i. DAY. Level 7 – Dragon Disciple Blood of Dragons Natural Armor Increase (+1) Character Feat – Persistent Spell. Two world magic: Brand. . Personally, I use it with maximize. I would think that since Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage provide the exact same benefit, they don't stack. BAB = full -1 , and add lvl -4 + 2d6 to each attack is very handy. Rogue Talents: Stalker Talent-> Sniper, +4 undecided. Wayangs are short, lean humanoids, similar in stature to gnomes. That's Awesome. Very clear. Rocky Williams 530 :Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. my gnome illusionist uses it to have a threatening ghost sound to flank for people, if he has nothing better to do. What's particularly fun would be applying both of them to Fireball, using Admixture to change energy types on the fly, and attaching Dazing Spell. 14 Category Region Requirement(s) MinataYou grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of. No need for sneak attack dips either, and you can use a trait like Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter to add Intensify metamagic and raise the max to 10d4. Additional traits to get magical lineage is great, try to get wayang spellhunter too. Of course, a GM may rule otherwise, but I wouldn't expect this reading to be accepted at an average table. Hexes: If you want to be able to heal the healing hex ist a must, even if a lot of people think it's weak. Long Arm increases your reach, letting you five-foot-step away from a foe and still Spell Combating them. Especially good if you took either Magical Lineage or Wayang Spell hunter to Fireball. e. Since no (Wayang) in the name - I would say no. Their eyes are yellow or white, and their hair is stringy and slithering. (Orc/Draconic) and plops Wayang Spellhunter. Vampirc touch: Level 3 Intesified Metamagic: +1 level (level 4) Wayang spellhunter (with vampiric touch): -1 level (level 3) The least beneficial is level 3 across the board for this scenario. Wayang Spellhunter (lower metamagic cost 1 level) Magic Items: Flawed Orange Prism (+ 1 caster level) Otherworldly Kimono (+4 caster level) Prayer Beads - Karma (+4 caster level, needs UMD skill check to use)Why Gifted Adept over Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage? They are good too. You are going to want Toppling Spell, Disruptive Spell, Dazing Spell, Heighten Spell and Quicken Spell by level 6. Being multiclass spellcaster, you probably want Magical Knack. The Fate's Favored and Magical Knack traits already use up both typical trait slots, but with a Drawback or Additional Traits you could also pick up Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball (maybe re-flavored for your backstory). 274 XP 200 Male wayang illusionist 1 CN Small humanoid (wayang) Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft. But my other trait is spoken for - Hermean Paragon (+2 trait bonus to Initiative) for flavor reasons. Metamagic Rager. If you can take a magic item or crossblood for the Orc bloodline or a Draconic. third: Blood Intensity would be able to boost the output of a battering blast/fireball by 9d6 instead of the 5d6 from intensify by 15th level. acid) sorcerer. Cold fireball is probably recommended. Good spells: burning hands is good early, as it's AoE that you can have access to at level 1. The regional trait originally appeared in the Dragon Empires Primer as Wayang Spellhunter (14), and, as the name and provenance suggests, a GM may limit the trait's availability to those from a region like Golarion's Minata which is populated largely (but not exclusively) by wayangs. For spells, pick a ranged touch spell (I like snowball) with magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for free metamagic, and go to town. Helpful for going first. Reflex being the weakest save won't avoid the fact that at these higher levels, a high percentage of opponents will have. After that point you have some feat options, with rapid shot, intensify spell/rime spell (if you took wayang spellhunter), and combat stamina (if your GM allows it) all being worth considering. Your ability to alter your spell of choice is greater than expected. A wayang with this racial trait counts as an outsider (native) and a humanoid (wayang) for any effect related to race, including feat. The reason for combat stamina is that it allows you to spend stamina points when using arcane strike to cause it to persist for a number of rounds. for healing reach spell combined with wayang spell hunter CLW or CMW can be nice. You probably want to take both magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for your primary blast spell so you can get some free metamagic on it, with empower and (eventually) intensified both being good choices for damage, and rime spell is a nifty crowd control option. An intensified empowered Iceball with CL of 15 prepared as a 5th level spell deals (15d6 + 45) * 1. Trait:Wayang Spellhunter: Fiery Shuriken. Or you can hopefully procure a quicken Rod, or make one yourself. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage. You could then take empower spell at lvl 5 or better at lvl 7 and use it for every fireball spell you cast as it only costs you a 3rd lvl spell to use. It took two deadly difficulty encounters at once to take him down (technically he was only fighting one of them by himself, and won. +1 trait bonus to Perception and it becomes a class skill. Cast Defensively in Pathfinder is a joke, in this instance SG = 1st level spell (-2 trait reduction from Magical Lineage + Wayang Spellhunter) = DC 17 Cast Defensively Check. Level 8 – Dragon Disciple (INT +1) Ability Boost (STR +2) Dragon Bite Dragon Resistances Bloodline Feat – Blind Fight. If they "Overlap" then Magical Lineage brings it from 5 down to 4, and. Wayang. Heighten Spell is really the only metamagic feat that makes using a higher-level spell slot an advantage instead of a disadvantage. El secreto para esto es el primer matar a os en Espina (por ejemplo, tres), luego empezar a cerca de la actividad de trata de personas. A Persistent Glitterdust with Wayang Spellhunter is a level 3 spell that will stomp on most opposition. Scorching ray is an evocation spell which has no particular requirements. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. I posted this in the r/Pathfinder sub, but didn't hear anything back so I'm posting it here. With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage, we can Empower it for free, so now we're talking 55d6+110 (+50%) for a 3rd level spell slot. its referring to HUNTING wayang!You can apply Wayang Spellhunter and magical lineage to cast it using a 2nd level spell slot. You use Intensified spell to keep this combination online up to 10d6 damage, and thanks to Magical. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. take time to build, but will be very strong at high levels. As a note a sorcerer with the arcane bloodline can gets metamagic adept at level 3, allowing them to apply a metamagic feat to a spell without increasing the casting time 1/day. basically you can cast a. You can take both traits but that's usuallly overkill, and it's good to have one trait to personalise your character with. Feb 12, 2016, 01:02 pm. An arcane caster can then use the Flare cantrip to make someone unconscious for 1d3 hours. Traits: Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp), Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) Archetype: Kensai (select estoc as your chosen weapon) Race: Human Feats: Weapon Versatility (so your estoc can deal slashing damage) and Slashing Grace at 1st level, later take Intensify Spell, Empower Spell, Quicken Spell and finally Spell Perfection. Archives of Nethys are now the official Paizo srd, and is permitted to use Golarion-specific names. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell's final adjusted level. 6th, change spell specialisation to fireball. Need Help?Being a magus you'll want Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter. Magical Lineage reduces the spell level itself for determining the adjusted level. In hushed tones, superstitious people tell their children stories of wayangs— living shadows who come out at night to eat misbehaving children. Sign In; Cart . When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. These edge out Called, so you'll be kind of forced into taking Amateur Gunslinger sooner rather than later. You also need Rapid Reload by 3rd otherwise you won't be able to Spellstrike. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would. Saving throws vs Spell Slots Saves are a huge danger. I'd also suggest considering wayang spellhunter for your second trait, preferably for snowball. thats a -2 to adjust spell level Feats Level 1 Empower Spell Level 3 Flumefire Rage Level 5 Any metamagic you like. Also, I believe one of the developers even stated on these boards that you could not reduce a lvl 1 or higher spell to a 0-level cantrip. Also Quicken. For traits I would suggest magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for fireball, and then possibly reactionary due to how important going first can be at higher power levels. Paizo Blog; Forums; PaizoCon; Community Use; GuidelinesNo because Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter actually do two different things. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. And as Rhorik said, tusked not better than a feat because there is a feat that does the same. At level 12, they could could have Whip Mastery, Lunge, and Combat Patrol, threaten a 30 ft radius, have 7 AOOs, and have each AOO deliver a Dazing Rime Frostbite: +20 to hit, dealing 1d3+3 damage from the. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. (Fireball is treated as a 2nd level spell) whereas Wayang Spellcaster has you use a spell slot that is one level lower than the Metamagic Feat requires* (an Empowered spell would be. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. They are called Magical Lineage (from the Advanced Player's Guide) and Wayang Spellhunter (from the Dragon Empires Primer). And you can stack them to drop it even further. I suggest Wizard, but you actually don't memorize Magic Missile after you take Preferred Spell. Wayang Spellhunter -Shocking Grasp You can now apply 2 levels of metamagic to shocking grasp for free. Your spell selection will look a little different, but the action economy savings of Spell Combat are still fantastic. 14 Category Region Requirement(s) Minata You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. Ill recommend a fun build I played till twenty the Fireballer. But it's a cure moderate. One handy Wizard trick is to get the Additional Traits as a Feat, and pick Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter. Both allow you to apply a metamagic feat to a specific spell and reduce the total level by 1. Sign In; Cart . Much sooner than level 12. Beebs Mar 9, 2012, 05:18 pm This combo has been popping up more and more in optimization threads in the Advice forum. Brian Abend Puntos 61. Metamagic is your friend. Wayang Spellhunter. It's not like Magical Lineage is suddenly weak with that FAQ. Sign In; Cart . Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2) Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. Half-Orc Corsablooded Orc/Red Dragon or Gold Dragon Bloodlines. ) The other traits I chose to make him more versatile outside of combat. Buy the wand and just hand it to a caster. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. m. at later levels, grab empower spell, varisian tattoo (evocation) intensify spell and flumefire rage. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Wizard does it faster. . Spell penetration is also rather useful depending on what sorts of enemies your GM throws at you. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits, both for fireball. 4th, change spell specialisation to burning arc. Lesser rod of quicken is $35,000 gold to do your routine 3 times a day. everything from that point onward is open. this build roasts things, and is a very intuitive pyromancer. It should be. That's a reason why I don't take it. Most people seem to accept that the Magical lineage ruling would also apply to wayang spellhunter because they have the same effect. due to OGL issues, some feats, traits, archetypes and so on have been renamed, for example Wayang Spellhunter becoming Metamagic Master, leading to players taking the same trait or feat twice. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . That said obviously some DMs will hold you to it, some won't. As a numbers example, a level 10 human with spell focus, varisian tattoo, and bloodmage initiate for evocation spell, spell specialization for fireball, intensify spell, empower spell, the orc and gold draconic bloodlines, and magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for fireball can throw out an empowered intensified fireball out of a. This does assume a +6 headband. But these are both quite fragile arguments. 5 in an aoe at up to medium range that doesn't require being able to charge. 1st spell specialisation (burning hands) 3rd varisian tattoo evocation. Side note: Metamagic Master is actually Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer. That frees up my 7th level feat to grab something else of value to complete another feat chain or grab another hex. I do not know if Spell Perfection stacks with Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. Both allow you to apply a metamagic feat to a. traits: wayang spellhunter (magic missile) (region) traits: Magical Lineage (magic missile) (magic) Familiar instead of first level power (look at familiar archetypes, can be interested), can taken improved familiar later too. So unless your character is from Minata in Tian Xia, your GM might have an issue with it. 25 damage, compared to the 57 damage your example averages to.